Mirror, Mirror On The Wall: Celebrity Narcissim And The Effects on Children

19 Mar

5th. Article in our series Bringing Spirituality back to Hollywood

By Parisienne

Who do you want to be like when you grow up?” is a question that adults often ask children.  Hopefully, the answer is “Mom” or “Dad.”  Nowadays, children may give the name of their favorite celebrity.  It may be Miley Cyrus, Kristen Stewart or any other person that comes to the child’s mind.

Why is that children find it acceptable to replicate the behaviors of celebrites?  Is it because they see their parents trying to imitate the celebrity as well?  Have the parents not set any type of behavorial code for the child?  Why is it that there does not seem to be any morals/ethics instilled into our children?

Kristen Stewart, for example, is seen by some fans to be a good role model for their children.  Why is that?  Can these people not see that she obviously has some underlying issues that are driving her to behave the way she does?  She is rude to her costar Robert Pattinson (watch any interview with them) for reference. In a recent visit to Paris, she flipped off paparazzi, tells them to freeze to death and she is hygenically challenged. She doesn’t seem to care about her life and it shows in how she carries herself.

In my opinion, parents need to ask themselves “what type of life do I want to help my child create?”

Dr. Drew Pinsky has written a book The Mirror Effect: How Celebrity Narcissism is Seducing America. The book highlights  celebrity-narcissim and it’s very educational.  I took the Narcissim test and scored a 16 (see link below and take the test). What did you score?

http://www.babble.com/Celebrity/celebrity-style/Doctor-Drew-Pinsky-Celebrity-Rehab-and-kids-and-celebrity-culture/

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92 Responses to “Mirror, Mirror On The Wall: Celebrity Narcissim And The Effects on Children”

  1. parisienne March 19, 2012 at 3:30 PM #

    Hi All!

    I may not be able to make it to the discussion tomorrow night. Please feel free to comment and I will respond A.S.A.P.

    Thanks!

    • Open Book March 19, 2012 at 5:05 PM #

      Hi Paris-

      ITA with LB great job as always.

      Hmm! I have quite a few questions and comments about this topic. I will space them out to give u time to respond. I will come back soon. So roll up your sleeves and get ready!! LOL!!

      • parisienne March 19, 2012 at 5:49 PM #

        *sleeves rolled up* LOL!

    • crelief March 20, 2012 at 7:08 PM #

      Paris,

      Great topic! Too bad I will not likely be at the discussion. I had this one question?

      I get it. Narcissism is always a willing assault on others and your examples prove this. This is always deal breaking behavior.

      Yet I have to ask: do the banks of integrity that allow one to tell the truth ever overlap with the ones that give people the audacity to be narcissists?

      I only ask because some of my favorite performances from the past seemed to be enabled with incredible internal strength.

      Some of my answers were nonsensical. So my “10” on the test may not mean anything.

      • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:11 PM #

        CR,

        Thank you! IMO, they can’t overlap because when a narcissist lies, the lie becomes their truth. As far as real truth, I think truth is a belief that a person holds either about themselves or something else. The truth is all perception, I think.

      • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:24 PM #

        Paris-I think narcissist have to be confronted with reality otherwise they live in a state of perpetual denial. In other words a narcissist thrives on manipulation and power over others. Right? They will lie and say no its sunny outside knowing its raining cats and dogs. Its only when u take them outside will they be forced to own up to the truth. Otherwise it becomes about getting u to believe their lies to maintain their power. Does that make sense?

        • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:25 PM #

          Yep!

          • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:40 PM #

            Hell I’ve known some narcissist who even if they are drenched and sopping wet will still try and claim its sunny. They are a piece of work!! That’s when u pray to God and slowly exit.

            • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:43 PM #

              yes and you cross them and throw holy water on them. Then say “The Lord be with you.”

              • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:53 PM #

                Q: Just so I know the correct procedure because I come across quite a few. Do I throw a bucket or tub of holy water?

                • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:55 PM #

                  both, they need both.

                  • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:59 PM #

                    I just want to be thorough. Lol! o.k. now i’m in tears. I’m calling a time out!

                    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:21 PM #

                      and for some you need an entire resevoir.

                    • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM #

                      LOL!! U win!!

              • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 7:59 PM #

                I think these individuals know deep down their extreme insecurities and to live in such an extreme form of denial is the only way they can exist. Looking at their truth is too painful.

                • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:18 PM #

                  Yep! The reality is they would have to own up to the destruction and mayhem they caused. That’s what I mean leadership and attention is hard work. Because a leader has to take responsibility when others fail too.

      • Esteban March 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM #

        16a1543511cI wish more guys would write posts like this that are actually itneresting to read and not boring like many others. With all the fluff floating around on the web, it is rare to read a blog like yours instead.keep updating your blog. thx! 195

        • parisienne March 30, 2012 at 11:05 PM #

          Esteban,

          Thanks for the comment! I’m glad you enjoyed the article.

  2. littlebells March 19, 2012 at 3:42 PM #

    So great and I loved that article by Dr. Drew! I have many comments and questions regarding that interview. I’ll do it later. 🙂 good job, Paris!

  3. Open Book March 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM #

    I took the test and scored a 12. I must have done something wrong or I need to accept I’m a below average narcissist. LOL!!

    Two-fold sleeve roll Q:

    Paris-Given the “Laws of Attraction”

    Do u think kids who want to emulate celebrities bad behavior are due to those in authority exhibiting the same behavior in their environment?

    • parisienne March 19, 2012 at 8:09 PM #

      Yes, I do think that if adults exhibit the same narcissistic behavior in their environment regardless of what the environment is (reality tv, home environment) Kids will want to emulate that because subsconsciously they are being told that paticular bad behaviors are perfectly acceptable in today’s society.

      • Open Book March 19, 2012 at 8:27 PM #

        True! Great response.

        Why do u think some kids do not adopt narcissistic behavior even if their parents exhibit high levels of these traits?

        • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 6:43 PM #

          Inherently, I think children know right from wrong but their own ways of discerning the truth for themselves is taken from them at an early age and replaced with cultural and socially acceptable “norms”.

          • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:14 PM #

            True! But I have seen some children adopt responsibility with parents who are irresponsible. Where do u think they get that behavior from?

            • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM #

              I think its all from a place of being. Each person knows right from wrong. Also they know that each action has consquences. I think children are more intuned to their state of being because they haven’t been morally corrupted yet.

      • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 12:42 AM #

        i agree AND bad attention is still attention and narcissists CRAAAAVE attention.

    • parisienne March 19, 2012 at 8:10 PM #

      Regarding the test: I’m authoritative. LOL

      • Open Book March 19, 2012 at 8:33 PM #

        Ahh! That’s great! But I may be a little bias. I’m authoritative & self-sufficient. LOL!!

      • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 12:43 AM #

        Me too!!!!! hahahahahaha!!!! Seriously, we were separated at birth despite me being a few years older. 🙂

      • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 12:45 AM #

        I have to admit there were several questions I really had a hard time answering because I was a little bit of both choices. For instance the choices “do you think you are not better or worse than others” or “I am special”. Well both! I think I am special but I’m not better or worse than anyone else because I’m flawed. Anyway…some parts were actually hard for me to choose.

        • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM #

          I had a hard time with that too LB but you have to understand the meaning of “special” as used in the context of the test.

          • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:00 PM #

            I know. I get too literal. Hahaha!!!

            • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:02 PM #

              LOL! 🙂

        • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:08 PM #

          Its definitely a good test to take. It makes u really think and dig deep to answer the Q’s. I went over them a few times. I had a quick answer to some Q’s then others LOL!!

          I would say. How would CR answer this Q about me? That help me keep it real. LOL!!

          • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:13 PM #

            LOL!

          • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:01 PM #

            Hahahahahaha!!!!

  4. Open Book March 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM #

    There is so much work/responsibility that comes with being at the center of attention. I think most narcissist don’t consider that aspect to things. Most people just want to show up and take bows rather than getting thier hands dirty. I hate that! Not to generalize but our reliance on technology has made us lazy. We want everything yesterday and think we deserve attention and respect for doing nothing. Why? Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 6:45 PM #

      ITA OB. However, it is now socially acceptable to do nothing and anyone who attempts to do something is looked at as crazy, IMO.

      • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:29 PM #

        Yes! This is sad unfortunately but I put my faith in God not men.

  5. Open Book March 20, 2012 at 12:41 PM #

    Paris

    three-fold sleeve roll Q:

    Social media allows the general public to make insulting comments toward celebrities. Do u think if the nay sayers were confronted about their statements it would give celebrities power over the gossip/rumors?

    • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 3:29 PM #

      Great question. I think anonymity online gives people tons of power, and yet if they were to tell the celebrity to their face exactly what they think of them…most wouldn’t do it.

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 6:47 PM #

      No i don’t think they would say anything at all when confronted with the actual person because what can they say? They lie and are able to get away with it. However, one person can look into another person’s eyes and know if they are lying.

      • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM #

        Yes! The EYES have it! That’s why I hate sun glasses.

  6. Open Book March 20, 2012 at 6:14 PM #

    LB & Paris-

    IMO: I think people who get off on being the center of attention are the main people attracted to scandal and rumors. What I found interesting about Dr. Drew’s article was his statement about reality T.V. influence over adults who go around indulging in gossip on these social media sites. I think gossip/entitlement/chaos seekers if not confronted manifest into stalking/bullying/temper tantrums to get attention. The manipulation seems to get out of hand. I think LB u hinted at this also? Can u elaborate a bit more? What are your thoughts?

    • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:04 PM #

      Let’s just say there are some fandoms where if you disagree with one side you are ridiculed, threatened, family is threatened, and stalked. I think its ok to dislike an actor but not bully others who don’t see eye to eye.

      • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:05 PM #

        And most of the bullying is based off of media lies.

        • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:13 PM #

          I have a friend who is involved in politics and he was telling me the other night that if the media can’t find anything on anyone. they just make stuff up. That’s why its better, IMO, if one has skeletons in the closet to come clean about it up front and that way the truth is told the way the truth should be told and not some fabrication of lies.

          • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:33 PM #

            ITA Paris. That is the wisest thing to do. That way your not living your life looking over your shoulder in fear.

            In TBH- Loved that book. Alexander tells Tania its better to face your fears than live a life being imprisoned by them.

            • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:34 PM #

              I love that book too!

              • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:37 PM #

                Actually he tells her that in the third book. Sorry!

                • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:37 PM #

                  Its OK! Its all one big blur to me. 🙂

                  • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:40 PM #

                    LOL! Touche!

                    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:41 PM #

                      LOL 🙂

                    • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:58 PM #

                      Ah…sheer poetry that series…:)

      • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:10 PM #

        I was just going to mention the fandom. They are the “you must like it” police. Think of it this way though, there are many different varieties of fruit. Not everyone has to like the same fruit you do. That’s why there’s lots of variety. If someone doesn’t like your paticular are you going to threaten to kill that person? its ridiculous.

        • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:38 PM #

          OMG! Individuality and debating are out of the question. I found that out the hard way.

          • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:40 PM #

            I think alot of us did. BTW Rob was called the friendliest of the cast by a pap. He was comparing THG and TWI cast,

            • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:56 PM #

              Ahh! The old adage is true: It does not matter who u say u are. Its what others say u are that counts.

              • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:58 PM #

                Mhmm! And actions speak louder than words. I always liked that saying too.

                • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 9:02 PM #

                  Ahh! LB your like a song bird. Always, so refreshing to hear u speak.

  7. Open Book March 20, 2012 at 6:47 PM #

    Everyone-

    I’m amazed at the motives of people who seek leadership and attention. I mean if u are seeking attention so u can thumb your nose or feel superior over people. How long do u think u will be in a leadership position? Truly great leaders I’ve found are great at encouraging others to be their best. They are not pretentious or self-serving. What are your thoughts?

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 6:48 PM #

      ITA, I think truly great leaders will also do the job right along with their worker. That shows them they are not different.

      • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:00 PM #

        Beautifully put and to the point Paris. If I may add, I believe to really know the plight of others, leaders have to work along side them so u know how to make things better. Does that make sense?

        • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:01 PM #

          yes it does. 🙂

      • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:06 PM #

        Great leaders serve others and put others before themselves.

  8. Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:01 PM #

    Hi Paris BTW!

    Welcome new and returning visitors to our discussion tonight. Please feel free to comment or add to the discussion.

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:03 PM #

      Hi OB!

      • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:11 PM #

        Hi!

        How are u? Great topic!

        • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:13 PM #

          I’m great! how are you? Thanks!

          • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:35 PM #

            Fantastic! Thank U!

  9. parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:17 PM #

    OB,

    What do you think about Miley Cyrus being attacked by the religous group for having her picture taken with a cake in the shape of a penis? Do you think she needs to worry about how girls look up to her or do you think she should be allowed to mature in a way that she believes is correct for herself?

    • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:32 PM #

      IMO! MC deserves to figure out what she wants to be when she grows up just like anybody else. I think she has to answer for her good and bad decisions and pay for them. However, what I’m amazed by is how women are adopting the same exploitive behavior as men. Meaning, u would think after years of women trying to get equal rights young women would be unwilling to promote the same behavior that enslaves them. I’m all for being proud of being a women but that does not mean u disrespect yourself to do it. It’s like cutting off your nose despite your face. I don’t get it?

      • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:37 PM #

        ITA. I think that women don’t want to fight anymore to be seen as equals to men they just fall into the background. Then what was all the Suffrage for and Women’s Rights? I now have Sister Suffragate from Mary Poppins stuck in my head. LOL

        • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:46 PM #

          Do u think some women once they break through the glass. Say “now what?” so they go about emulating men. I mean people know matter how old seem to fall and buckle under peer pressure. People adopt the majority always wins mentality IMO!!

          • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:55 PM #

            That is true. IMO, I think people by instinct are sociable people they love to be included in everything. Then there are people who love to be loners (likeme, I’m a self imposed loner) I would rather know that i followed my own belief and lived by my own standard than to follow someone else. I think people are to afraid to create the “now what” because they don’t want to be lonely at the top. Hope all that made sense.

            • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:09 PM #

              Word, homie. More to add but not on my phone.

            • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:12 PM #

              Yes! It makes sense. ITA I get greater clarity when I isolate myself sometimes. So too often people forget their purpose because so many RL distractions get in the way IMO! I think everybody should impose self inflicted exile if they really want to know the truth. Its the greatest experience especially for artist.

              • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:14 PM #

                ITA. Its why i do it alot.

                • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM #

                  Its a way for me to re-charge my creative batteries. I think this has been my longest period of exile to date. LOL!! Love it!!

              • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:16 PM #

                There is too much “noise” for our inner selves to get in touch with our thoughts and feelings. We do not play movies on roadtrips. My kids can read books or get lost in thougjt looking at the scenery. My daughter no longer naps but she gets quiet time. Everyone needs some solitude. It’s healthy!!!

                • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM #

                  I swear I get into a car and i fall asleep. That’s it i’m out. Cure for my insomnia. A Car Ride!

                  • littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:23 PM #

                    Me too! But not when I’m driving. Hahaha!

                • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:24 PM #

                  AMEN LB!!

                  Road trips are great for insomnia. I second that motion. LOL!!

  10. littlebells March 20, 2012 at 7:43 PM #

    Sorry I’m late!!!! I’m on my way to the treadmill. Give me 15 more min. 🙂

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 7:44 PM #

      its ok!

    • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 7:48 PM #

      Hi LB!!

  11. littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:13 PM #

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I read a quote from Jennifer Lawrence that she knows she is now a role model for young girls so she needs to watch her swearing. If that’s true good for her.

    Growing up I didn’t really have celebrity role models. I didn’t watch much tv and didn’t buy magazines. My mom, friends, religious leaders and other family were who I looked to for guidance. Not a celebrity.

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:18 PM #

      I read that too. Great for her to recognize that.

      I think today alot of kids are latch key kids so who is they babysitter? The television.

  12. littlebells March 20, 2012 at 8:24 PM #

    Paris and OB,
    I have more questions but will wait till I’m home!

    • parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:33 PM #

      ok!

  13. parisienne March 20, 2012 at 8:39 PM #

    OB and LB,

    I’m going to go for the evening. Its was a pleasure talking to you both! Have a good night!

    • Open Book March 20, 2012 at 8:49 PM #

      Goodnight Paris!

      Great discussion as always. U are truly a great philosopher in your own right.

      Everyone- Have a great evening and thanks for joining us.

      Take Care!

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