Great American Dance Films

6 Jul

By Ozzie

In celebration of Independence Day we also decided to look at great American dance films. This article will feature high grossing films of the last decade and look at the result of two high grossing classic dance films that have recently been remade.

Five movies that have been released since the year 2000 made it into the top ten highest grossing dance movies since 1977.

The highest grossing dance movie (since 1977) is unsurprisingly Black Swan.  To date it has pulled in $106,954,678.  Black Swan’s plot involves a ballet dancer who wins the lead role in Swan Lake however in an effort to become more perfect and embody the black swan Odile; she starts to lose her mind.[1] Only classical ballet featured in this film. Critics loved this film scoring an average 88%.[2] It was a massive success with audiences receiving an 86% score.[3] The psychological thriller garnered many award nominations, with the lead actress Natalie Portman winning Best Actress at the Oscars.

The fourth on the list was Save the Last Dance released in 2001.[4] It has made $91,057,006 to date. This film was probably the first successful film that fused classic ballet, contemporary ballet and hip hop/street style of dancing that we are quite familiar with in more recent movies. Save the Last Dance is about a teenage girl whose dream to be a ballerina is cut short by her mother’s sudden death. She moves in with her father, who lives in Chicago and transfers to a predominantly black school. She becomes friends with a young girl and falls in love with the young girls brother, who then helps her find her way back to her dreams.[5] Critics gave it an average rating of 53%; audiences were a little kinder scoring it as 63%.[6] None the less, it was still financial success with predominately teenage girls enjoying it the most.

Step Up came in at sixth place.[7] Released in 2006 it has made $65,328,121 since then. This film also uses the popular classic/contempory dance mix, this time with break dancing and ballet. Plot follows a young man (Tyler) who has to work at an art school, in which he vandalised, as part of his community service which also gives him the chance to earn a scholarship. There he meets a girl preparing for her final showcase. After her dance partner is injured and finding no one good enough to replace him, Tyler volunteers to help her. After her initial doubts she changes her mind and the two become close.[8] Critics slated this film giving it only a 20% average score however it was a hit with audiences who gave it an average rating of 85%.[9] Two more sequels were release (Step Up 2: The Streets (2008) and Step Up 3D (2010) and the fourth sequel (Step Up 4Ever) is planned to be released in 2012.

Ninth place went to Stomp the Yard which was released in 2007.[10] It made $61,356,221 in total. This movie’s plot follows a troubled young man (and a talented street dancer) attend university and therefore skip juvenile detention, after his brother’s death. Two fraternities battle to win him so they can compete and win the National Step Show but by doing so his education and a potential girlfriend are pushed aside.[11]  Only pure street dancing is featured in this film. Again, critics mauled this movie (it received 26%) however it was very popular with audience, with them scoring it 83%. It also featured Chris Brown and Ne-Yo, two talented and popular singers.[12]

Finally in tenth place is Coyote Ugly released in the year 2000. Since then it has made $60,786,269. Though Coyote Ugly isn’t an overall dance movie it does feature a lot of raunchy country style dancing. This film is about a young woman moving to New York to become a song writer. After unsuccessful attempts to break into the music industry she is forced to take a job at a rowdy bar called Coyote Ugly. While working there she becomes more confident in herself and her attempts to make it big in the music industry.  Once again critics scored it a low 22% but this time the audience gave it a low score too, only 38%.[13]  It still however brought in the money, perhaps because of the provocative dancing.[14]

Remakes are tricky and dance films may have it a little harder. Not only do they have to update the plot but also the choreography too.  It has a fine line to walk, too much of the original may deter younger fans but too little of the original routines maybe put off older fans of the beloved original unless they are lovers of all dance genres.

Fame (1980), for example is well loved. Although only coming in at number 25 (earning a total of $21,202,829) it is still classic many dance lovers include in their favourites. The plot centres on a group of students at the New York High School of Performing Arts through their studies. It earned many award nominations and won two Academy Awards and one BAFTA Award.  It scored high with critics (an 80% average score) but audiences had mixed reviews, awarding it 52%.[15]

The 2009 remake however received 25% off critics and 43% from audience. It still came in at number 23 on the Greatest Dance Movies list and earned $22,455,510.  The problem was it felt “undone by choppy editing” and “its incomplete characterizations”.[16]

This year the remake of Footloose is released (October 14, 2011). The original Footloose (1984) features high on the Greatest Dance Movies list, coming at number five and earned $80,035,402. It plot is about a teen (Ren played by Kevin Bacon) who moves to a small town where dancing and rock music has been banned. Ren encourages people to overturn the ruling. Although only scoring average ratings off critics and audiences (58% and 54% respectively) it still did very well.[17]

The remake stars Kenny Wormald  (his first major role) as Ren and Julianne Hough (only her second major role) as his love interest. The reaction so far is mixed with some liking the idea of a remake and those hating it. By the look of the trailer the dancing is much raunchier and incorporates more modern style of dancing.

Of course all remakes (regardless of the film genre) do face these problems to varying degrees. But will this remake have the same fate as Fame 2009 or fair better. What are your thoughts and opinions on the fate of Footloose 2011 and other dance movies in general?

Please join us for a discussion Thursday 7/7/2011@7pE/12UTC


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167 Responses to “Great American Dance Films”

  1. Littlebells July 6, 2011 at 11:47 AM #

    Love this! Great job Ozzie!

    I hated the remake of “Fame”. Hated. it. The previews looked awesome and I was so excited and then when I saw it in theaters, I was bitterly disappointed. All the great parts were in the trailer and the editing was choppy. There was no character development.

    I just saw the trailer for FL. I’m trying to figure out how I’m feeling about it. I didn’t realize Chace Crawford had backed out, but I think it’s better they got an unknown to fill Kevin Bacon’s role. Again, it’s Kevin Bacon’s role and so I’m nervously biting my nails. I love that man. (Especially after that commercial he did mocking himself!!!! 🙂 ) Don’t even get me started on Julianne Hough. I have several issues but they have nothing to do with this article. I agree the dancing looks raunchier. Why? Sexually repressed teens!

    Alright, well I’ll start chewing on this article. Can’t wait for the discussion! 🙂

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:00 PM #

      Yes, I thought Chace Crawford was still in it till I looked into it for this article. I have heard of Julianne Hough but I’m entirely sure what she does!

      • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:02 PM #

        Well she started on Dancing with the stars, a reality TV dance show where celebrities dance with trained professionals. I loved her there, but then it’s like she’s been pushed into everything else: country, movies, blah, blah, blah and I don’t feel …..never mind, I’ll email you….

        • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:27 PM #

          Oh, right! We have that called strictly come dancing. Which reminds me of I dance I loved! Let me go find it!

          • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:32 PM #


            Sorry, I couldn’t find a clearer version!

  2. Parisienne July 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM #

    Ozzie,

    Great Article! I haven’t really gotten into dancce films as of late because I think they are geared toward a younger demographic and have more to do with sex then the actual dancing itself. IMO. Still haven’t seen Black Swan yet. Will have to Netflix that too. What is your favorite dance film?

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 10:32 AM #

      Paris-

      ITA! The teen dance films today are all about sex. I think the film “Dirty Dancing” started this trend.

      I think in the 80’s teen dance films were more about teen rivalry. Like the films “Breakin” in 1984, Beat Street and Breakin 2. Then after “Dirty Dancing” in 1987 it shifted to sex.

      I think dance films like Saturday Night Fever and Flashdance were geared at an adult audience IMO!

      Ozzie how well did “Dirty Dancing” do in theaters?

      • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM #

        Dirty Dancing is number 8 on the list. It made $63,954,274.

        I haven’t watched any dance films since Save the Last Dance because they all seem to be the same and I grew out of them. I like Black Swan, Dirty Dancing and Billy Elliot!

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:15 PM #

          Oh Yeah! I love Billy Elliot…… How did that do in theaters?

          • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:35 PM #

            Billy Elliot was at number 24 and made $21,995,263.

  3. Francesa July 6, 2011 at 7:40 PM #

    I’m with Parisienne in regards to dance films. I think the last one I saw was Flashdance on cable. Kind of a cliche movie, but really changed trends in fashion and dancing. I loved Black Swan, but that felt more like a theatrical perfomance to me. Which I guess is somewhat the same.

    I don’t know if anyone could reprise Kevin Bacon’s role in Footloose.

  4. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 10:11 AM #

    Ozzie Excellent Article!!

    Out of all these films Black Swan was the highest grossing dance film since 1977? I’m sure we will see Black Swan 2.

    It’s funny “Step Up” was in 3-D WHY? SMH!!!!

    Can’t wait for discussion tonight!

    • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 12:11 PM #

      1–HW don’t even THINK about making a Swan 2!!!! The first one should be the ONLY one!!!

      2–Because they could. SMH too……

      • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:08 PM #

        Yes, Hollywood never ever remake Black Swan.or make a Black Swan 2 It’s perfect just the way it is!

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:14 PM #

          U know they are going to find some poor sap director just out of school to do it. I can see it now. A Natalie Portman look alike wakes up in the hospital having dreamt the whole thing.

          • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:36 PM #

            Argh! That would be a nightmare to me!

  5. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 1:02 PM #

    This one is for you OB!

    I agree with everything shifted to sex. Dance, at least from what I remember, used to be about telling a story when words weren’t enough; not about sex or trying to get into somebody’s pants.

    There are some dances though, currently, that are pretty phenomenal. Im going to try and find them….

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 3:51 PM #

      LOL! Thanks LB!!!!

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 3:52 PM #

        LB & Ozzie-

        What dances currently do u think are phenomenal?

  6. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 3:06 PM #

    One of my favorite dances. This goes back to the idea that dance is an extension of our emotions.

    The dancing ends around 4 min. but I watched the whole clip:

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 3:49 PM #

      U are the greatest LB!!! I love Robby Benson he could work up a tear with feeling, then u be crying before u knew what hit u. I always get a lump in my throat watching that scene.

      • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 3:58 PM #

        “This is for my mom” *sobs*

        • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 2:26 AM #

          I love that movie one of my many favs! LB you are a extraoridinally awesome!

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 4:07 PM #

        in case you were wondering where Robby benson went, here goes…

        http://www.robbybenson.com/biography/

        • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 4:22 PM #

          CR! Thank you so much. He is truly a very talented man. Missed you the other evening.

          • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 4:45 PM #

            I’m really sorry I missed being there for the musicals article (and especially the discussion) so I wanted to be here for this one. Please forgive me.

            • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 4:46 PM #

              I can’t believe I missed a discussion with its own sound track. DUH, DUH, DUH, DUH, DUH, DUH.

  7. comic relief July 7, 2011 at 4:47 PM #

    I watched most of the posted performances; I can understand why you are so crazy about those performances and movies.

  8. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 5:00 PM #

    I wonder how well the the classics would do if we brought them back to the silver screen….don’t mind me, I’m just thinking out loud…..

    I watched a clip from Stomp the Yard. You couldn’t bribe me to go see it in theaters, let alone DVD even if the bribe was 5 million dollars. All I saw was angry, sexed up dancing. I get that the style of dance does take talent, but it was completely…BLECH!!!!

    OB, you asked what my favorite dances are. Well off the top of my head, I love So You Think You Can Dance. I know it’s not film, but the dances and choreography on that show are incredible. Some I don’t jive with, but most tell a fantastic story and are pure entertainment.

    As you have heard on the news as of late, lots of little 5 and 6 year olds are tossing their goodies around on stage and the teachers think it’s cute. So do some of the parents, but there has been a big outrage over the sexual moves. I think these teachers are bringing it from the screen. SYTYCD doesn’t have that raunchy stuff.

    • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM #

      A workaholic whose wife just wants a moment of his time

      a son and his mom who is dying of cancer and how he is trying to fix her

      Sorry, I know it’s not film, but this is what dance in films should be doing, imo.

      • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM #

        The second one reminds of the UK version one.

        I don’t tend to watch reality shows but I was flicking through the channels and saw that this one was good. I don’t tend to like that style either

        • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:31 PM #

          The dance is great, but I’m not fan girling over the song.

          • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:37 PM #

            No I don’t like it either. I’m sure there was another one like it with better music but I can’t find it.

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 5:49 PM #

      Now that I’m finished laughing, do you think men and women have different appetites for dance movies.

      I liked “Bring It On”, a movie about Cheerleaders from 2000. That movie was very angry.

      Is my appetite too wide? Or do men and women respond to different dance movies differntly?

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 5:52 PM #

        Sorry: wide appetite could equal poor taste

        I didn’t think it deserved an oscar, but it was great to watch.

        • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:07 PM #

          I think it would depend on how broad the person’s mind is. Also what they view as art.

  9. Parisienne July 7, 2011 at 6:20 PM #

    Hi everyone!

    On my way to see transformers.

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 6:24 PM #

      Protect your brain cells. Don’t do it!!!

    • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 6:36 PM #

      whhhhyyyyyyyyyyy????? *clutches chest*

      But seriously, feel free to walk out if you can’t take it anymore. 🙂

      • Parisienne July 7, 2011 at 6:38 PM #

        Coercion.

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 6:55 PM #

          We just care about u!! We don’t want to read about u going postal in the movie theater on the news. LOL!!

          • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM #

            OB, I love you!!! 🙂

  10. Parisienne July 7, 2011 at 6:36 PM #

    I think every thing today is sexualized. Dance films today are not about technique and grace like astaire/rodgers. Why is there such a push to sexualize kids today?

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 6:55 PM #

      Hi Paris,

      Toss a grenade then leave the theatre. ….not very nice. But i think you’ll sorry with your choice.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 6:59 PM #

        I assume u are talking about Transformers CR!!! I’m crying with laughter between u and LB’s responses to Paris. I can’t stop laughing……………

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:05 PM #

          o.k. CR now that I have composed myself. I’m sure u were not serious and meant it as a joke. U would not encourage violence of any kind correct?

          • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:10 PM #

            absolutely correct.

      • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM #

        Oh my gosh, between you and OB my ribs are killing me and I can’t breath!!!! hahahahahahahahaha!!!!

        Please, tell us how you really feel! hahahahaha!!! *falls off chair*

    • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM #

      Get out of my brain!!! *hugs*

  11. comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:02 PM #

    Yeah, I was talking about Transformers. Guess we would expect any glowing reviews. The sexualized kiddies comment was a litle raw, maybe responding later would be better…

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM #

      “would” she be “won’t” .

      Sorry I’m finished doing this, unlike Lurker I’m not a speed typer.

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:09 PM #

        “She” should be “should”

        Honestly i’m not drunk just having some articulation problems. I promise I will stop.

        • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:16 PM #

          Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight…..haha!

          • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:21 PM #

            It’s not funny. “sigh”

            • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:22 PM #

              Oh, I’m sorry!!!!!

              • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:27 PM #

                s’all right.

    • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 2:42 AM #

      Transformers was a waste of my time. I saw it because my dad wanted to not because i did but within the first 5 min of the film I turned to him and asked him if we could get our money back. I have so many issues with that film its not funny. OK first off and this is my pet peeve….I swear I will change all this nonsense one day………….NEVER mix historical footage/facts with fiction. Note to director/editor if you are going to use clips of historical footage and impersonators DO NOT flip from one to the other and try to make it look like the same person just don’t. Do not try to CGI the impersonator into the President’s rocking chair either.

      • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 2:51 AM #

        also do not insult the intelligence of your audience by trying to tell them that the space walk happened because some aliens crash landed on the moon. PLEASE GROW UP. Also I do not need to see up a woman’s dress because someone thinks its “sexy” Its distasteful and disrespectful of women. Also if I wanted to see a woman’s body in undies and a white shirt and turn on an adult channel. and please sync up the vocals with lip movements. and one other thing……STORYLINE!!!!!!!!! The point of this movie was?????????

        • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 2:55 AM #

          I meant I’d turn on an adult channel.

    • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 3:01 AM #

      CR,

      This is what I meant by the, IMO, sexualization of children. I think that the decision to enter a beauty pageant should be left to the child when the child is of age to make her own decisions namely 18+.

      • Littlebells July 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM #

        Don’t even,….I…..punch….stupid parents….knuckle heads….AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! Oh my gosh….I’m working myself into a frenzy!!!!! The only time I see clips from this show is when Joel McHale is slamming it on The Soup.

      • Open Book July 8, 2011 at 11:49 AM #

        This is sooooo bad on so many levels. Simply because kids are not mature enough to interpret all the attention being thrown at them. It can have such a damaging impact on their self esteem. I think competition can be good if it allows kids to be objective but this is all subjective and superficial.

      • comic relief July 8, 2011 at 11:59 AM #

        Paris,

        I assumed you could back up what you are saying. I just regretted that you left so quickly before you explained.

        I saw the video and of course you did not disappoint. Though many of us were sexually approached and encouraged by adults when we were children, the epidemic of sexualized children in the media scares me a lot also. Though there are a few exceptions, Hollywood seems to lower the age of consent every year.

  12. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:02 PM #

    Welcome new and returning visitors to our discussion tonight. Please feel free to jump in and ask questions. There is no wrong Q or answers just keep it clean.

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:06 PM #

      Yes, hello all! Just catching up with the comments at the moment!

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:07 PM #

        Hi Ozzie.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:08 PM #

        Hi Oz!!

        • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:21 PM #

          Hello CR!

  13. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:06 PM #

    Hi everyone! I’m trying to recover from laughter…..:)

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:09 PM #

      U are? I am laughing at your response. I’m literally in tears at the moment.

  14. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:07 PM #

    Hi LB!!!

    Love your video clips!! How are u doing?

    • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM #

      I’m in a great mood! I’m just imagining Paris like this after she sees Transformers:

      Yeah, I’m trying to reign in my youtube frenzy right now, because well….the only way to understand what amazing dances out there are to show them.

      Hi Ozzie! Hi CR! *waves*

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:17 PM #

        You do that way too well. Please keep it up.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:19 PM #

        LOL!!! Please if u care for me please stop!! My ribs hurt!!

        • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM #

          I CAN’T!!!!! The demon has been unleashed!!!!

          • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:25 PM #

            LOL!!!!!!!!!

      • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:23 PM #

        OMG what movie is that from? I’m crying with laughter!

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:24 PM #

          Hopefully she’ll correct if I’m wrong; I think it’s “the Other Guys”.

          • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:26 PM #

            Yes it is and I love Will Farrell. 🙂

            • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:39 PM #

              Thank you! I’ll have to watch that!

      • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 2:54 AM #

        LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was me. I actually put my hoodie up at one point my dad had to keep asking me if i was ok. I got tortured even further not only did I see the film…I saw it in 3D. What is the point of 3D?

        • Littlebells July 8, 2011 at 10:52 AM #

          Oh noooooo!!!!!!!! I cringe for you.

        • Open Book July 8, 2011 at 11:33 AM #

          Paris AWESOME u survived!!!

          • comic relief July 8, 2011 at 12:02 PM #

            LOL!!!!!

  15. comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:13 PM #

    Yesterday, Openbook mentioned that one of the greatest differences between screen and stage actors pertains to their ability to perform in both subtle and grand ways (respectively).

    Ozzie do these differences in anyway carry over for actors who dance on film.

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM #

      Hmmm, good question. I don’t think there would be a problem. I ‘ll have to think about it! It really is a good question!

  16. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:19 PM #

    I’ve never followed how many dance films HW has made over the years, but I am blown away that we really have nothing from the 80s and 90s. Wow. That is just….wow.

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:23 PM #

      How do they audition actors for these movies?

      Is there a completely different audition routine for actors in formal dance styles like (ballroom, ballet, etc.) versus actors who are just good social dancers? In case you are wondering, I know some of the “social dancers” are actually professionals.

      • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:29 PM #

        Ozzie????

        I’m going to assume no. If the film is using a certain style of dance, I’m going to believe that they will audition with a dance using that style. Regardless of your dance background, you need to be able to do whatever it is the choreographer wants. SAme goes with musical theater auditions.

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:36 PM #

          LB,

          Yes Ozzie,

          I forgot you sing, you dance,…. The laymen might take a while to catch up, but that doesn’t mean we did not hear you the first time.

          I forgot you probably went to these kinds of auditions yourself.

          • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:50 PM #

            I have no clue! I only went to one audition, it was for a stage musical and I didn’t get anywhere with it! The nerves got the better of me! I was a little kid though. My memory is a bit hazy but they send out a wide casting call, I think anyone can take part. They take you in groups and then the dance then perform it in front of the casting agents. You then learn a song and sing it one by one. Slowly through out the day they make cuts and those who make the corus go home. I assume the more talented ones go on t the next day where they audition for the bigger roles.

            • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:54 PM #

              Cool, thanks for the clarification.

              I asked because of the article and the dance background.

            • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM #

              Ozzie U are a multi-talented threat. Love it!!

              • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 8:03 PM #

                I would love to see you dance. 🙂

                • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:10 PM #

                  Lol, thank you! I actually don’t think that highly of myself but I shall try and accept the compliment!

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:50 PM #

          Yes! LB is a triple threat with a great and funny spirit. Love it!!

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:29 PM #

      Well there was a big interest in Latin dancing in the 90’s.

      There was

      “Dance with Me” in 1998
      “Strictly Ballroom” in 1992
      “Lambada” in 1990

      I know this is not a lot but I think Dirty Dancing started this trend.

      • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:34 PM #

        Strictly Ballroom was great! I loved the over the top hair and costumes.

        Ozzie,
        Why do you think most movies these days only focus on hip hop, crunk, or whatever the other street styles are. I know ballet is thrown out there, but why this particular focus?

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:40 PM #

          LB,

          I’m going to piggy back on your ballet question?

          Never saw “Billy Elliot” but heard it was great, why do you believe Films with Ballet score so high with film audiences. Black swan did really did well too.

          For some reason I think this is unusual because I’ve never had the impression ballet performances alone were this popular.

          • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:44 PM #

            Good Q CR! Flashdance had Ballet in it too.

            • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:46 PM #

              I forgot that, thank you.

              • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM #

                I think the popularity of Black Swan was to do with the story and actors, not necessary the ballet aspect. At the moment I’d say street style dancing is most popular. In the past decade there have been loads of movies with that style of dancing. Maybe it’s because that style is featured in alot of music videos?

                I adore Billy Elliot but that maybe because it’s set in the region I live in!

                • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 8:00 PM #

                  I do think music videos do have a lot of influence.

                  BE was a very sweet movie.

                • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:02 PM #

                  Ozzie,

                  I think your remark about Black Swan is very true. I will take it out of my ballet file.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:40 PM #

        Oh I forgot to add the Mambo Kings in 1992. It was really a musical but it had some Latin dance numbers laced throughout.

  17. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:25 PM #

    Swing Kids was one of my favorites because I love big band and swing.

  18. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:39 PM #

    CR, “Bring it On” was good, but not nearly as angry as some of the clips I saw from Stomp the Yard. I’m talking full on “rawr” evil looking faces and moves. I don’t know about males or females appetites for dance. Honestly, I’m clueless because my husband who in no way can dance or has any background or had any sisters in dance, loves watching SYTYCD with me and is deeply moved by the serious pieces. Sometimes he doesn’t get the dances and his comments make me look at him like he’s sprouted another head. He really likes it. He doesn’t like vulgar. He likes sexy, he likes deep, he likes fun, but vulgar, raunchy stuff is not his thing.

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM #

      What do u consider raunchy stuff LB?

      Do u have an video example?

      • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 7:47 PM #

        No, no videos. Just when the guy is bend the girl over and bumping and grinding or they are mimicking sex moves.

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 7:52 PM #

          Oh Yeah! That is quite the raunch fest considering it’s main demo is teens.

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:43 PM #

      Well, Mr. Bells is all that, isn’t he. You should have him stop by, since we’ve heard so much about him.

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:08 PM #

        That wasn’t an implied comment about the ample amount of estrogen in this environment.

        … that was a subtle pleah for all of well known benefits of diversty. 🙂

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:09 PM #

          diversty = diversity

        • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 8:12 PM #

          He’s away for the weekend, but I will get back to you on this.

          • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:14 PM #

            Understood.

  19. comic relief July 7, 2011 at 7:50 PM #

    I saw many of the films listed in your article and thought they were all fantastic. I’ve never heard of anyone having a rating system for Dance films. Do you have an impression that audiences come to these movies with any sets of expectations.

  20. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:06 PM #

    Ok I will admit something because it’s only fair given Ozzie and LB u have been so forthcoming. I love this musical and dance topic because I use to dance up until my mid-teens. However, my mother was quite the nervous wreck during auditions etc… So I gave it up for her sanity and mine. LOL!!

    • Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 8:08 PM #

      I’m sorry OB. But that’s what living rooms, hallways, garages, super market aisles, and anywhere else is for! I hope you dance whenever the fancy strikes you. 🙂

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:13 PM #

        That’s sweet LB!! Honestly, I don’t regret it. I still do it for recreation but I stopped competing.

        • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM #

          Aww! 🙂 *big hugs*

          I did a few competions but not many. I prefered the shows my dance school put on. My mum prefered those too because she wouldn’t get too worried either! Now I tend to prance about the house or if I’m sitting down I can’t stop my feet tap dancing, lol!

          • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 9:06 PM #

            I bet u are amazing dancing about Oz and being very modest as always.

            • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 9:09 PM #

              *goes red*

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:11 PM #

      Since were doing confessions I never thought about an audition. But I used to love to dance but haven’t done it recently at all. Yet, I can’t believe it’s all out of my system.

      • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM #

        Aww, you dance too? I’m very impressed! 🙂

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:29 PM #

          No, let me clarify. I danced socially at clubs, parties, high school dances. I never thought about dancing in front of people for prizes, fame, or glory.

          Yet I have a tremendous amount of respect for peole, like you and LB, who do.

          • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:37 PM #

            I’m still impressed!

            • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:46 PM #

              Thank you.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:29 PM #

        CR what dances did u do? Can u name a few?

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM #

          LOL. You’re royalty, I’ll get back to you on that one.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:31 PM #

        Come on CR the funky chicken don’t count. LOL!!

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:32 PM #

          …this could get bad. Honestly, I will get back to you.

  21. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:09 PM #

    Ozzie-

    There was a whole slew of tap dance films in the 80’s I think? What did u find out about the popularity of Tap dance films?

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:13 PM #

      That’s right gregory hines was in a lot of them.

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:21 PM #

        Yes the film “Tap” was in 1989

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098442/

        • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:23 PM #

          thanks LB.

          • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:44 PM #

            Yeah before Mr. Hines, there was Sammy Davis Jr. Before them I think the Nicholas Brothers were in a Shirly Temple movie?

            Didn’t she perform with Mickey Rooney and possibly Fred Astaire. I wish I knew the movies…

            • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:51 PM #

              Here are the Nicholas Brothers as kids. They are AMAZING!!!

            • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:55 PM #

              this might take care of answering my questions…

              • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM #

                Great video CR. Is this a documentary? It looks like it. Very interrrrrrrrresting!

          • comic relief July 8, 2011 at 12:07 PM #

            Sorry should have said “OB.”

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:15 PM #

      I think that shall come under LB’s next article.! To be honest I can’t remember any tap dances in modern films, which is a shame. *sighs* They seem not feature much after the golden age of musical and dance films.They don’t make them like they used to!

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:23 PM #

        Oh! I’m sorry LB….. I hope I did not ruin what u had planned. I should have known u two had it covered. SORRY!!

        • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:32 PM #

          wait, did I just give too much away? I was being very vague about it. I don’t know too much myself, I was just concentrating on films from 2000 onward!

          • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:49 PM #

            No your fine Ozzie. I was just answering a previous Q from LB about dance films of the 80’s and 90’s and I did not mention Tap dance films.

            • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:51 PM #

              Oh phew! 🙂

  22. comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:20 PM #

    In terms of different eras, the dance films seem very different. Maybe my take is very subjective but:
    • When I think of Fred Astaire movies from the forties I see a lot of emphasis the moves of great individual dancers (Top Hat, Follow the Fleet).

    • When I think of Gene Kelley movies, in the fifties there seemed to be a lot of emphasis individuals in group contexts (Singin’ in the Rain, On the Town)

    • When I think of the sixties Frankie and Annette movies, see a lot of social emphasis on groups (Beach Party, Bikini Beach ).

    • When I think of the seventies directors movies seemed to return to showing really great individuals again (Saturday Night Fever).

    I’m not sure whether my take is actually what happened. Maybe I’m actually naming the era by what I saw during it.

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:33 PM #

      No I think that’s a good way of looking at it. Like fashion, certain dance styles go in or out of popularity.

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM #

        ….thanks now I feel less crazy.

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM #

      This is a great observation CR but this is a Q for LB and Oz!

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM #

        either would be fine. it’s a free forum. The source of the insight isn’t important to me.

  23. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:52 PM #

    Where did u go LB?

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 8:55 PM #

      I’m not entirely sure…….LB? *sing song voice* LB?…………..Maybe she got engrossed in watching all the video on here again! I did, lol!

      • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 9:01 PM #

        Hope she didn’t go to see Transformers. …….she will be sorry.

        • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 9:14 PM #

          NOOOOOOO! Don’t say that. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

          • Parisienne July 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM #

            That’s so true.

  24. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 8:57 PM #

    Ozzie-

    Is Tap dancing more popular in America vs.the UK?

    • comic relief July 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM #

      Sorry,

      group I have to go. See you at Musicals part 2 LB. I have a ton of questions, and I have to make up for the last time.

      • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 9:07 PM #

        Bye CR!

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 9:06 PM #

      I’m not sure on that. I can tell you there is a difference in style though. Tap dancing in the uk is more bouncy, we’re taught to dance on the balls of our feet more, maybe it’s a celtic influence. I can’t find a good video though!

      • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM #

        Oh! Great observation…

        Is this what u mean OZ?

        • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 9:21 PM #

          Yes, more bouncing like that! Except the upper body isn’t stiff, you can move your arms about and there’s no going up right on the tip of your toes. There must definately be a celtic dancing style connection!

          To me American style seems flat footed (it isn’t, i know!) and more difficult to see what steps they’re doing. But it looks so much cooler! There seems to be hardly any foot movement but all these beats keep coming out, it’s fascinating!

  25. Open Book July 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM #

    Everyone!

    I have to go…..

    Ozzie great, great article and discussion. Thanks for answering all my Q. Paris and Francesa sorry I missed u. LB great laughs and videos.

    CR-Glad u could make it. U have a secret dancer lurking inside u? I can feel it…..

    Lurker-BIG WAVES!!

    • ozzie20 July 7, 2011 at 9:25 PM #

      Bye OB! I’ve had fun again. I must go see what’s happening to my email. The incoming alerts for posts being made, seems to have busted up my pop box tell me I have an email. It’s currently about 2 minutes behind what’s being posted!

      Night all!

  26. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 9:19 PM #

    Sorry, I had to run to the grocery store while I had the chance. Catching up!

    • Open Book July 7, 2011 at 9:21 PM #

      SHE’S ALIVE!!!

      Well LB goodnight!! I will check back tomorrow and comment as well.

      Take Care!

  27. Littlebells July 7, 2011 at 9:20 PM #

    OB,

    No worries, now I have a better direction of where to go with the article.

    Goodnight everyone. 🙂

  28. Open Book July 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM #

    This is actually in response to Paris statement who said: “I think every thing today is sexualized.”

    First let me say I don’t think there is anything wrong with sex it’s how it’s used that’s the problem. Anything that can impact another individuals life requires one to always think about the consequences of their actions before indulging in sex, drinking, marriage, etc… For kids I believe it’s the responsibilty of parents to teach their kids the consequences of their actions rather than rely on Hollywood. IMO!!! I think teaching responsibilty and accountabilty is so important in building ones character.

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