By: Open Book
Last night CBS was the first major network to kick off the award show season for 2011 with the People’s Choice Awards (PCA’s). Next up will be NBC with the Golden Globe Awards which airs Sunday, January 16th 2011 and ABC will conclude with The 83rd Academy Awards which airs Sunday, February 27th 2011. Over the past two years, ratings for awards shows have increasingly seen a decline in viewership. This years viewership for the PCA’s were even lower than 2010. Will the Golden Globes and The Academy Awards have a better shot? What do you think award shows can do to boost their ratings in the future?
Please join our discussion: Friday, January 7 th, 2011-7:00p.m. EST.
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They can stop giving awards to people who don’t deserve them. Perhaps that would bring back a little credibility to them. I feel that they are losing credibility. IMO
Please read this to get warmed up before our discussion on the PCA’s tonight. Below are some comments about the PCA’s Winners from The Examiner.
Movie Category Winners:
Comedy Star: Adam Sandler (Really? Have they not heard of Zach Galifianakis?)
Comedy Film: Grown Ups (Sigh)
Action Movie: Iron Man 2
Action Star: Jackie Chan
Movie Actor: Johnny Depp (Hmm, he is pretty awesome. But, 2010 was Leonardo DiCaprio’s year. Depp didn’t do so good, especially with The Tourist.)
Drama Movie: The Twilight Saga: Eclipse (Seriously? I love Twilight but it’s not the best drama ever.)
Family Movie: Toy Story 3 (Yes! I agree, for once.)
Onscreen Team: Robert Pattinson, Kristen Stewart, Taylor Lautner
Movie Star Under 25: Zac Efron
Horror Movie: A nightmare on Elm Street (I know horror movies were not good at all last year, but this movie?)
Movie Actress: Kristen Stewart (What?!….)
Favorite Movie: The Twilight Saga: Eclipse (This is so true, if Twilight was the only movie you watched that year.)
This is just a sampling. For more info got to: http://www.examiner.com/movie-reviews-in-dallas/2011-people-s-choice-awards-winners
Teenagers these days…..LOL
Hi!
I don’t know – I think is some ways the internet gossip sites contribute to the lack of award show viewers. In that I mean, there isn’t any reason to give up 2 hrs at night when you can catch up the next day.
That’s true. I wasn’t going to watch the PCA’s but ended up turning them on 1/2 the way through. Taylor Swift was getting an award and I watched from there. Also I think they have become kind of jokey.
Well for me, I like watching (always have) to see the dresses on the women. It seems lately they cut the red carpet short and you never see all the people on camera. You have to got to the web to get pictures of all the attendees and what they wore.
I like that too. but some of the hosts I can’t stomach for more than 5 secs.
So are u saying people are more interested in the results not so much the live events?
yes. I think people are more interested in the awards. The shows are to long.
Well they tend to drag on and it’s a huge time slice to sit thru the whole thing. I think they’ve steered toward more PR which isn’t what people watch for. I watch for the gowns and tuxedos. Heck besides the opening hosts comedy act, they could fast forward to the other entertainment.
that’s true. I liked it when hugh jackman hosted and he brought anne hathaway up on stage one year.
Do u take the award shows less seriously when people are to obvious with promoting themselves?
Well I never take any of them to seriously but its a real turn off to see someone overtly promote themself. Its like they’re screaming “look at me!” Then they act retarded and i flip the channel. I understand work promotion but isn’t that what press junkets and all the media for films are for? The promotion of one’s work?
No I think what is the turn off is how the award recipients are calculated and the voting mechanism.
Fan voted awards are different than fan votes shows.
What do u mean? Can u clarify the difference between “fan voted awards are different than fan votes shows.”
Do u think award shows should have a voting system similar to American Idols?
No then you have fan base extremes posting votes too overwhelm the system. Unless you have some way to it be one person 1 vote.
Do u believe votes represent the viewers or do u believe these award shows are fixed?
honestly, I think they are fixed.
I think they are fixed.
I think the voting is ok. I voted for the PCA’s for R but other then that I thought the rest of it was crap.
Are u going to watch the Golden Globes or the Oscars. Which one do u prefer to watch?
I’ll watch both. but i tend to channel flip instead of watching the entire show. I wish they would just pass out the awards and get on with life. Sometimes all the acts are to much and i lose interest.
Oh! This is a hilarious response!!! LOL!! “I wish they would just pass out the awards and get on with life.”
LOL. 🙂
The Oscars are almost a given for me. Golden Globes I tend to watch if there is someone I think might win. I think the draw for the Globes is they bring in the TV celebrities. So the list of who will be there is more interesting. I would think the Globe would get a bigger ratings hit.
Why are u looking forward to the Golden Globes is it because of RP or Twilight cast will present or both?
No actually I watch the Globes as a precusor to Oscar night. I am actually looking to see best actor/actress and movie. And secondary is the best TV shows.
I tune in for the film category to get an idea of what’s in store for the Oscar’s.
It has nothing to do with RP or Twilight at all. My dad and I have contests with each other. To “predict” who is going to win. If he wins he then holds it over me. “I’m wiser than you because I predicted the GG and the Oscar winners.” LOL So its fun.
That sounds like fun!!!
It is. We started doing it when I was little and just never stopped.
See I voted for Rob too, but I feel one vote from me. I feel its dishonest to keep voting over and over. Just me though.
When I voted for R I could keep clicking the mouse button. It never stopped me from voting more than once.
There’s been a lot of people saying the TCA and the PCA’s are all PR. Do u think that is a turn off to viewers?
I think most of the viewers are teens. so i don’t think they know the difference.
The viewers are mainly teens. Why would they be turned off? I think the audience drop out is the adults. They are about PR because the interviewers on the carpet and the hosts question the stars about what’s new – they feed them about PR. So it’s not an ‘interview’
That’s true. I stopped watching “carpet” stuff. Now i just want to see who wins and that’s it.
The carpet lately on all these shows seems ‘optional’.
Even the globes last year – due to the rain, it was almost ridiculous to watch the carpet. I thought the idea was to see everyone in their dresses. Now I can’t see them without going thru the internet anyway.
Do u think people watched the PCA to see Robsten?
Of course. They wanted to see “The Love”
Robsten did not boost the ratings for CBS. Why do u think that is?
because people are sick of being lied to and if all a network is going to do is rely on two people that obviously do not get along then they need some help. Also they need to tell their host not to act like he/she is high.
Well they didn’t give them much airtime. They weren’t on the carpet and they didn’t put any cameras on them until the end of the show. So holding off showing them didn’t help – in my opinion.
No it didn’t. Honestly, I think that whoever filmed it waited until the last possible second to turn the cameras on them.
Personally I would have watch if they were on or not. It was just an added bonus that Rob was there. I could have been much happier if Summit would have just sent him and Taylor or just Taylor and KS.
Yeah but do you think people just want to see K and T?
Plus they didn’t boost ratings because of the way they treated each other. Taylor helped Kristen onto the stage. If Rob had helped her on to the stage when she accepted her award. The ratings would have been through the roof.
I don’t think so I don’t think him helping her actually effected the ratings. I just think people get bored with the shows. Especially when you can go online and read who won and what everyone wore.
I think CBS thought so – they didn’t miss 5 min segment without mentioning it. So maybe.
really? I didn’t see any carpet/interview stuff.
Oh it was incredible. I think the carpet hosts where fully expecting the TW trio to walk the carpet and they didn’t. Even until the last 10 minutes before the show started. So it looked like they were not informed.
See I would have hated to have been a host. At least hosts should be informed of who/who isn’t going to be on the carpet. That way they don’t stand their expect R/K/T or whoever to show up.
Some celebrities prefer to skip the red carpet in favor of doing post red carpet interviews. As a viewer do u prefer to see pre or post interviews?
I think the idea (might be old) is that we see the stars in their gowns and the guys dressed – it’s a fashion walk. That has become interview central instead of ‘who are you wearing’. UGH. Save the interviews for post. You would get more people watching if we saw the fashion event that it REALLY is.
So u are saying do a quick cat walk, wave to fans, then do interviews after.
Yes!
yep. I hate it when host are trying to interview a celeb and you can tell they didn’t think about their question before they asked it.
honestly i just wanna who wore what.
They need like to have their people give a list of who they wore etc, and then let someone else like the carpet fashion police tell us what we are seeing. Sort of like a fashion show.
I agree!
Oh! This a great idea. The only problem though, so often actors may change who they are wearing at the last minute sometime even in the car on the way to the event. LOL!!
Well someone should figure out those logistics. I don’t know. Its an idea.
Email works!
pre interviews, sometimes those post interviews are just a repeat of the speech given on stage.
Have they looked into the online streaming reach statistics lately? There’s been a few of those that I have participated in. Maybe they need to look at multiple mediums to reach the younger audiences?
PCAs are very much becoming the Mtv award shows and TCA and the Kids Choice Awards. Its a competition between the fan groups to see how many times they can vote to get their celebrity to win. The celebrities it seems its all pr.
GG, Oscars, Screen Actors Guild, these type of shows are suppose to be an award bestowed on the celebrities peers. But it has become a popularity contest amongst the different industries. There have been many times that I have thought why did that particular person,movie, show win that award. Its just puzzling.
Personally, I think most of these shows are fixed. It would explain why some people win a lot and others that have worked really hard are passed up. They haven’t done their dues as some people think.
I also like watching to see what people will wear. See I find I don’t like the musical numbers or whatever just want to see the awards passed out and the speeches.
Hi Kim!!!
A lot of people downgrade the PCA, MTV and TCA.
Do u find the award shows that are voted on by critics and industry peers more respectable then the PCA, MTV, TCA?
Yes. very much so. Of course I never agree to the critics, I usually love what they hate (example Remember Me) and hate what they love.
I have to say this the GG and Oscars make me notice movies that I would have actually never went to see either a t.v. movie or an actual movie. So then I will rent it when it comes in.
Well it’s obvious the award shows are trying to get a younger audience to tune in by promoting Robsten. The Oscars did it last year with K and TL do u think that was a success or failure? Do u think they wanted to see R?
Younger audience? Well I think they have created enough awards shows that ‘target’ specific audiences. I don’t think the idea of ‘all award shows’ for all demographics is a worthy effort.
Yes. Everyone wants to see R. Let’s me completely honest here. He is the main star of the franchise. KS and Taylor are just the side kicks. I know that sounds awful, but R has the personality and the looks. His response never seem to be rehearsed or planned. I like that kind of off the cuff.
Nothing against Taylor he just seems like he is to polished and phony.
KS don’t even get me started. She needs to start writing down her acceptance speeches so she doesn’t look like a fool up there.
LOL! I actually thought she did pretty well. She didn’t stutter to much.
Who doesn’t want to see R? Although I think to much of a good thing could hurt him. He shouldn’t become to oversaturated.
Oh I agree I wouldn’t want him to over saturated himself in the media, which I have heard him say that he worries about. That’s why with him go to GG, I think he should have skipped the PCAs
KS/TL didn’t factor into my decision to watch the Oscars last year. I actually did have a mission – I wanted to see the tuxedos on the men, with prom coming up for younger member in my household. I wanted to see what they were wearing.
May I just say something about clothing choices. It should be mandatory not to show up looking like a hooker.
Well, that’s some of these young celebrities whole wardrobe when they go to these events.
I know that’s so sad. There’s no decency in clothing choices anymore.
Or wearing FOOD.
Who wore food?
Lady GaGa!!
There was a meat dress? Like meat? I want a steak meat?
Are u referring to the Meat Dress?
Yes the meat dress. I didn’t know it was real until the next day. That’s gross.
really? Who tells her its a good idea to visit the butcher before an awards ceremony? I wonder how many flies she attracted. I wonder if she had to put a towel where she sat so she wouldn’t stain the seat.
OMG i just googled Gaga in her meat dress. Wow i have no words.
You didn’t know about that! OMG LOL. I serious thought i was a red fabric made to look like meat. Then, then, the next day – I was looking at stars dresses on the internet and saw that it was REAL.
I was grossed out.
OMG she had meat on her head.
I wonder what preservatives she used. It had to be heavy. Wonder if they used like a steak tenderizer to get it flat like that.
Never mind, I don’t want to think about it.
They beat her with a mallet to pound out her meat. LOL!
I don’t think it was real!!! It would have been green and cooked under all those lights at these shows. LOL!!!
Yeah but they could have treated it with some type of chemical to make it look fresh.
It may not have been consider the stench.
Classic response!!! LOL!! Please explain who are u referring to? Can u give an example of what u find to be hooker versus not? Please be kind!!!
LOL ok. Kristen’s outfit I considered to be hookerish. It was way to short, IMO. If she bent over you’d be able to see everything.
Please Kristens was mild. I’ll have to think – Nicki Manaj at the last thing hosted by Chelsea handler. THere are others.
You know “the place that children will never come out of.”
Goodness!! Hilarious….
Bent over her seating in her seat (front row) had to be a challenge for the camera man. Good thing she kept her legs crossed. Its bad when you stand up and you have to pull down the dress before you move.
Terribly uncomfortable to I imagine. Especially if u are not fond of wearing undies. LOL!!
I hope K is not like Paris.
Or Britney.
O.K. Laura I’m still laughing at this response!! I can’t stop!!! Let me take a quick break!!
Now I did hear that some of the celebrities that were up for the PCAs were campaigning for people to vote for them on Twitter. Which actually brings us back to multiple media being used.
Do u think actors should make statements with their clothes on award shows?
Do u think it’s more acceptable for musicians to make statements with their clothes like Lady Gaga?
I’m suprised there is no one up in arms about Gaga’s outfit. Meaning more animal right groups.
Did u see my response up above? The meat dress was not real.
Are you sure? Can you confirm that with some sources.
Because I am still horrified by that.
It was not real because stage lights are really hot!!! The dress would have been green and cooked. Also, it’s amazing what u can do with latex these days.
Eww green and cooked. She changed really fast. I figured she had a refrigerated truck somewhere out back. Because she came in with a different outfit.
I saw it.
I don’t get what the ‘statement’ is anyway. It’s an awards show. What statement. I thing Lady Gaga goes after shock value.
Well I think actors should let there work make statements for them not their clothes. Their clothes should not work against them on award shows it’s just a bad idea and why create bad press for yourself. Also, only unknown actors who need to stand out wear some over the top costume to get notice.
Musicians-I think it is expected they wear something over the top because they are creating or trying to maintain an image or theme of there music etc… So it is understandable.
You know it doesn’t matter to me one way or another. As long as they aren’t obscene.
Oh and can someone teach all of these young female celebrities to please stand correctly in a dress. It drives me nuts.
Oh please you want to get started on – teaching them how to walk in heels and a dress?
Learn how to give an interview.
Or come with one written down? Yeah that’s the ticket! Hey even Lisa Edelstein had it hidden in her dress. It can be done!
That’s because she older and wiser. Did you see where she poked fun at Krisbians?
Yes she was great. And btw, I loved her dress.
I so agree with u. Write it down even if it takes u forever to read it.
I agree
Even if a celeb is nominated they all should have a speech. I hate it when celebs say “I didn’t expect to win, so i didn’t write one.” If you’re nominated write one. It should be mandatory.
They do that so they look humble. Not expecting to win. Excuse me but someone of these shows they know in advance like the PCAs so just have a speech ready.
Other shows I agree.
LOL
Now I have to say Rob has been getting a lot of flack from some about his wardrobe choice for the PCAs. I thought it looked fine, maybe a little casual compared to the other men, but it is not the Oscars.
Men do have it so much easier for choices in wardrobe.
Well the colors he wore were really good. Neutral color palette good!!! It made him look good on camera. However, the jacket multiple textures made too much of a statement which was not good. I did think the casual attire was perfect for the PCA’s. They are not the GG or Oscars.
I liked the colors – I agree. But the jacket was wrong style and too complex I agree. Even a really nice suede jacket would have been nice.
Yeah I have to say when I first saw him that is what I thought that was. I nice suede.
suede would have been nice on him.
Well Men have it easier yes, but they aren’t as overtly hanging it all out like some women. But they aren’t immune to the critics either.
Well I have to go!!!
Nice discussion, I had a lot of fun!!!
I’m still laughing. This was fun! Night all.
It was have a good night!
Have a good night!
Sorry I was late, but great night.